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Why do non-believers talk about God?

Friday, November 26, 2010

Why do non-believers talk about God?

One of the questions I hear a lot is this: “As an atheist [one who doesn’t believe in a deity] why do you talk about the god you don’t believe in?” In some respects this is a valid question and I have a valid question back. You don’t believe that Mario exists yet you talk about him, why is that? 
That was kind of a rhetorical question seeing as it is a great comparison but at the same time a terrible one. But the answer to both questions is simple, because the concept exists. We talk about Mario because Mario exists in his own fictional realm of the Mushroom Kingdom. We talk about god for much the same reasons. But there are other reasons why we talk about god more than Mario. We talk about god more than Mario because people don’t kill other people over Mario. We all know Mario has a red hat and a bushy mustache.

But the same is not true about god. There are so many versions of god that people feel the need to kill each other over him. Atheists talk about and try to disprove god because if there is no god, there is no reason to kill people to prove whose god is better. 


There has been much discrepancy as to what I meant when I said “if there was no god, there would be no need to kill people over him”1 I was called out on the fact that there are other contributing factors to why people kill each other and in many other posts I have stated that this is true. And although there are many other reasons for why people kill each other, atheists talk about religion and not political motivation in much the same way that solipsists talk about the human consciousness and not whether bee stings hurt. Saying if there was no god there would be no need to kill over him is a valid reason for ATHEISTS to argue against god seeing as it has evil being done (killing in the name of god) and that it directly relates to an atheists beliefs (or lack there of) so it is a viable reason as to why atheists try to disprove god. As I stated, there are other reasons people kill each other but that wasn’t the point I was trying to make.

I have made this clear a number of times but some people still don’t get it. When I say religion causes atrocities I mean that in the Judaic holy books they all have passages that people use to justify the killing of others. 
In the bible/torah: 
Leviticus 18:22: “You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination.”Leviticus 20:13: “If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death.”
 In the Koran: 
URA IV: 19-21
20. Against those of your women who commit adultery, call witnesses four in number from among yourselves; and if these bear witness, then keep the women in houses until death release them, or God shall make for them a way.
These are just a select few verses from holy books that call into question the ethics of God. 
Now the most common argument against these verses is this: “They were taken out of context!” No. This is the entire verse in question. The other common argument for the bible/torah one is this: “That was the old testament, times were different then.” That is such a cop out. The bible is the divinely inspired word of God so essentially what you are saying is that the original Bible was just a rough draft. Why would an omnipotent God need 2 drafts to write his holy book? It just doesn’t make sense. So in conclusion, I never said religion is the root cause of atrocities, but in the holy books it does have a plethora of verses that are used to justify all sorts of atrocities. If anything, you are using my quotes out of context so please, shut up. :)



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